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Since the Franks got reworked Culture Card Art, I went ahead and typed up a comprehensive mutli-paragraph breakdown (and a shorter tl;dr) on the Aztec's Culture Card Art, and how it (and the Jaguar art) can also be improved and corrected, as it's been bugging me since it was shown off.
EDIT AS OF NOV 14TH 4:15AM EST: I fixed linking the Aztec male hairstyle image reference twice in the detailed clothing section instead of both the male and female image, alongside some other minor edits.
It's been bugging me pretty much since it was shown off, and here and there on this subreddit I've noted it's got issues, but since I now know that some of the art is being revised, I figured i should do a detailed explanation.
Before I begin, I wanna go ahead and note that the devs actually DID do a much better job depicting Aztec archtecture and clothing in the Food Market art (the weird basket-hat and lack of painted accents on buildings aside). I'm not sure why there's such a discrepancy, but I think that the Culture Card Art might be a tweaked version of alternate/unused Maya art, as the motifs and archtectural style and color scheme is almost identical to on their Culture Card Art and the clothing and body paint shown in current Aztec Culture Card Art is drawing a lot of Maya (or rather, sterotypes of Maya) influences. The only distinctively "Aztec" thing in the main Culture Card art now is the Great Temple with it's twin shrines to Huitzlipotchli and Tlaloc visible in the background, and the roof comb on the other shrine likewise being in a style associated with Aztec architecture (taken from the Santa Cecilia Acatitlan pyramid, though apparently the roof comb reconstruction on the pyramid isn't accurate to what that pyramid in particular originally had!)
I'll do a deeper explanation of what's wrong with the current Aztec culture card art further down, but since that ended up being like multiple paragraphs/pages (And even then, i'm only reviewing stuff that would be relevant to the existing art and i'm not covering absolutely everything, so I link suggestions on further references on Aztec art/architectural/clothing motifs at the bottom), I'll sum it all up in short bullet point format, and people interested in the full breakdown. For the linked visual references in both the bullet points and full post, I'll primarily be using images from existing artistic recreations for the sake of making adapting stuff to the Culture Card art easier, rather then using images of actual surviving ruins, art, or images from manuscripts, but I can provide those upon request as well.
So, here's the tl;dr, bullet point feedback:
- The Culture Card art shows buildings with bare masonry/brick visible. Actual monumental Aztec architecture had smooth stucco over the brickwork, and then painted frescos and accents over that. (This is a problem with the Maya culture card art to an extent, but their clothing and archtecture is closer otherwise and it's not as visible so it's less an issue there)
- The colors of paint and accents seen in the culture card doesn't match the colors used in Aztec archtecture in Tenochtitlan as it's supposed to be depicting. It's using White, Red, and Teal/Green (same as the Maya art, in which that's fine), it should be White, Scarlet, Azure, Yellow, and Black.
- This is less an accuracy and more a thematic issue, but I don't think the Ball-Court is a good thematic representation of what makes the Aztec unique, other Mesoamerican cultures had the ball game (same for sacrifices re: the Sacrificial Temple being their unique quarter, though that's DEFINITELY not changing even if the art can). A garden in a palace courtyard or chinampas and their canals would represent the Aztec's unique elements for their Culture Card Art more.
- The clothing worn by the people is very inaccurate, with open-topped blouses for women and just collar garments for men, and they have wierd, Apocalypo-esque tatoos or body/face paint, and hairstyles seem all over the place aside from a few men who have the right style, but also wierd headbands and bone ear piercings They look "tribal". Women should wear Huipils, and men should have Tilma's. Neither should really have tattoos or paint on them in typical secular contexts, aside from women occasionally using yellow face/body paint. Men should have a distinctive bowl-cut hairstyle with a top knot/tuft (not shown in this image, but most would have one based on social/military rank), while women had hairstyles often including various bulbous side braids and knots.. Jewellery should gold and turquoise/jade primarily, the only common sort of feather based headgear worn in a typical secular context would be Quetzallalpiloni feather tassels tied to the knot of male nobles who had sufficient status for one. Priests (and royalty, indivuals in ceremonial contexts, etc) have exceptions to these, such as priests often using black face/body paint, but see the detailed section for that.
- The Ball players are shown wearing basically the same clothing as everybody else in the scene, when that wouldn't be the case. There's actually not a ton of depictions of Aztec ballplayers (even if you define "Aztec" loosely; compare that to the Maya which have tons; part of why I think it's not the best scene choice for the Aztec to begin with!), but what exists suggests they would just be wearing a breechcloth, an additional sort of skirt or protective garment around the thighs/waist (though this is hard to see, see detailed section for clarification) and handguards that covered the top of the hand.
- The Jaguar Soldier is likewise entirely inaccurate, with no armor aside from his helmet and both that, his weird collar garment that everybody gives to the Aztec despite it not being a thing, and his shield having a mess of colors and made up patterns. The Jaguar soldier should be wearing a Tlahuiztli warsuit made of thick cloth and feather mosiac, with the feathers arranged to make a jaguar spot pattern. This should be relatively uniform in color (though that color can vary from the expected yellow to red, blue, and white, and probably other colors) and we have a variety of known shield patterns that could be used in place of the entirely fantastical one currently in the art.
If you want a longer, deeper dive into all this... then keep reading!
For starters, I need to give a short preamble about what "Aztec" even is, as people use the term differently.
Humankind almost certainly means it to primarily mean "Mexica", the denizens of Tenochtitlan (and Tlatelolco, which split off from and was eventually reabsorbed by Tenochtitlan). They are whom the term is most associated with, and we see Tenochtitlan's great temple in the existing Culture Card art, and the Jaguar knightly order was an element of their military.
The Mexica were one subgroup of a broader culture/civilization in Mesoamerica known as the Nahua (which "Aztec" is also sometimes defined as) Other Nahua subgroups beyond the Mexica include the Acolhua, Tepaneca, Xochimilca, Tlaxcalteca, etc. The "Aztec Empire" as a political unit was an alliance between Tenochtitlan and two other Nahua city-states, Texcoco (of the Acolhua subgroup) and Tlacopan (of the Tepaneca subgroup) and the their various subject vassal and tributary states. Not all of these subjects were Nahuan (some were Maya, Zapotec, Mixtec, Otomi, Huastec, Totonac, etc), and not all Nahuan states in Mesoamerica were a part of that "Empire". (notably the Kingdom of Tlaxcala wasn't)... as you can see, depending on how you define the term, a LOT of things could or couldn't be considered "Aztec"!
I'm going to be primarily focusing on Mexica stuff when possible (and as such what I mention here may not be applicable to other Nahua groups), though at times I'll be pulling from broader Nahua sources when it's reasonable to do so, as there is very little surviving architecture and manuscripts from solely Mexica sources. For simplicities sake i'm going to continue to use the term "Aztec" unless the distinction becomes important, in which case I'll say Mexica or Nahua, etc.
For architecture, there shouldn't be much if any masonry and brickwork visible on the ballcourt, temples, and other fancy, ceremonial or administrative structures. Monumental architecture for virtually all Mesoamerican civiilzations, including the Aztec was covered in stucco and then painted accents and frescos, over the internal stone and mortar and outer brickwork. The only likely place you'd likey see bare masonry in Tenochtitlan would be commoner residences (which would be daub/straw or adobe brick) or less fancy noble homes, but even then some accounts assert even these would be covered in clean stucco even if some pictorial depictions show otherwise.... but for the Culture Card art that shouldn't be a problem, since that'd be showing large structures in the ceremonial precinct or even if the view is changed, probably fancier palaces.
As far as the painted accents, frescos, and murals on top of that white/biege stucco, the most common colors should be scarlet, azure, yellow/mustard, white and black, not the red and teal/green seen in the image, as those 4 colors (plus a base off white stucco) is what's seen in surviving structures and objects found in Tenochtitlan's central ceremonial precinct. To simplify it down further,the base white stucco, scarlet, azure, and yellow (like what the Scott & Stuart Gentling painting I linked above uses, though note that apparently more recent research has gleaned that the Great Temple had more paint on it then that, and that the layout they used for the precinct's structures is slightly out of date... though I don't think the devs need to go THAT far with accuracy). The white/red/green used in the Aztec Culture Card art currently is less "Aztec" and is more typical of some Maya cities like some structures at Copan, or in Central Mexico, Teotihuacan, as seen in a 3d reconstruction of the Cidudela complex and it's temples . If i'm going to nitpick, I'd also note that the square geometric pattern visible on the building on the far end of the court isn't something that i've seen in Aztec art, or even really Mesoamerican art in general (though if I had to place it i'd say it looks Zapotec). A safe bet would be a Xicalcoliuhqui step fret based pattern, which is very common in the art of virtually every Mesoamerican civilization; if the developers aren't interested in painstakingly making a custom mural based on actual manuscripts and iconography.
I'd also note that while a view of a ball court works, I don't think it really highlights the unique elements of Aztec society or urbanism when all Mesoamerican societies had ballcourts. In fact, (and I note this again further down when disscusing the attire of Ball-players) there's VERY little depictions of the ball game or players among Aztec art (even Nahuan art as a whole, not just Mexica) relative to, say, Maya art. A view of a palace courtyard with a garden (I'm not sure the "asian" style of garden here is accurate, though, but I don't think that sort of hyper accuracy is needed here), or of canals and chinampas, would be better (likewise I think these would make a better emblematic quarter then a sacrificial altar, but I realize that's not changing): The Aztec placed a huge emphasis importance on botany, herbal, medicine, using them to ward off misasma and the like, to the point where they had formal taxonomic systems for categorizing plant life and Tenochtitlan was largery built out of artificial islands used for aquaculture with canal,s between them, with many impressive aquaduct and dike systems; etc. This, especially the botany stuff, is what makes them unique; though keep in mind for the latter option that not many canals reached very deep into the city center, as the center of Tenochtitlan was natural ground, not chinampas, though according to various maps there was a canal close to the ceremonial precinct behind Moctezuma II's palace in front of his zoo/garden.
Clothing & Fashion Accuracy
For clothing of the spectators, things are entirely off. Both the men and women here are shown with random geometric tatoos, the women are wearing blouses which leave the shoulders and upper chest exposed; and the men just have loincloths and random collars on, piercings made out of bone, wierd headbands, etc. The hairstyles are off too generally (though I do see some signature hair-knots on some men). I noted before how the clothing and fashion here seems to have some Maya influences, but even for the Maya things are pretty off, and I'm sensing a lot of influence from Mel Gibson's Apocalypo, which... is not a good idea. The Women should primarily be wearing a garment as huipilli: these are blouses, but they cover the upper chest, shoulders, and sometimes the arms as well (note here the woman in the red dress is Maya, not Nahua/Aztec). The men, in addition to loincloths (sometimes a cloth tied to the hip was also worn over the breechcloth, but more on that in the ball player section), should generally have a mantle/cloak known as tilmatl, worn in different styles depending on social class. A basic huipilli and tilmatl should be white or biege with perhaps small color accents, but those worn by nobles had rich patterns: often with floral or avian motifs (especially for huipilli), geometric designs, marine or animal motifs, etc.
Nobles would also have a variety of jewelry: earrings, piercings (notably for labrets for men), necklaces, braclets, etc. You would NOT see the big feathered headdresses associated with Mesoamerican civilizations and Moctezuma in particular: The Aztec did use them, but not very often relative to other garments, not in the way often depicted (they were curved) and seemingly mostly in military contexts; nor was it a "crown": that was rather [a turquoise mosaic diadem, you can see this set of infographs for the typical regalia and dress of royalty. However, noble men DID often wear feather-tassel garments known as Quetzallalpiloni (the Jaguar warrior in the current art actually has one of these which is nice, as some were seemingly built into helmets though a bit of a fanciful one, but it's a game, so that's fine). For hair, men generally had a very distinctive "bowl cut" hairstyle, often with a large tuft or knot on the top, though the presence and style of said knot varied depending on social and military rank. You can see a variety of hairsyles and helmets/martial regalia in this image, but the typical civillian hairstyles and dress are towards the bottom. Women had more common variation in styles, but a variety of bulbous knots and braids such as along the sides were pretty typical. Body and face paint wasn't really used much in general everyday contexts, aside from some women using yellow paint, as that was fashionable.
The main exception to what I noted about hair for men and body/face paint was for priests: Priests often had black paint, and their hair was messy and unwashed (an exception from the normally stringent hygiene norms in Aztec society) caked with dried blood. Priests likewise had a variety of special ornaments and bits of regalia and various ceremonial outfits, much like what you see deities depicted with, but i'm not going to go into this much as A: I'm honestly not that familiar with the variations, function or names of these,other then a shirt/jacket garment known as a Xicolli, and a ceremonial (and perhaps sometimes secular-high status) garment for women known as a Quechquemitl, and B: as the art is now there's no priests shown, though it would make sense for a few to be present... in fact, they may have played ritualistic ball matches in the above getups, based on some pages of the Borgia Codex (though the Borgia is probably not Mexica).
On that note, in regards to the Ball Players: The current Card Art has them more or less wearing the same thing as the spectators (though the person at the bottom of the image in shadow seems to have one of those highly ornamented ceremonial outfits I noted). There's actually not a lot of depictions of Aztec ballplayers, even if you go by Nahuas in general rather then just Mexica, so I actually had to do a bit of research and asking around here. Based on what I was able to find, the few depictions we have (aside from the prior two images of priests in a ritualistic match) seems to just show players with a breechcloth, lacking the hair topknot., with some also showing some sort of hand protector covering the top of their hands.
That second image there (from Duran's History of the Indies of New Spain) also makes it easier to notice something I missed at first (and i'm editing in now), which is that they seem to have an additional skirt garment known as a hip-cloth in Indian Clothing Before Cortes in the first image (you can see another worn by the man on the bottom left in this depiction from the Codex Magliabecchiano), or thigh-waist protector of some kind in the second. I didn't think anything of these initially, as an additional cloth tied around the waist over the breechcloth is just something you see in depictions sometimes and is seemingly just something people wore at times without a clear class or context based association (The only real pattern I see is it tends to get depicted more often with a man who doesn't have a tilmatli on). But, in this second image from Duran, now that i'm looking close, clearly a different kind of garment, seemingly wrapped around each thigh or the waist, with the band of the breechcloth resting above it and likewise the tassels/ends hanging off the breechcloth's knot laid ovein front of it... I really don't know what this is, but in light of it's presence and that seems to be colored the same way as the handguards, I think it's meant to be some sort of protective garb, and perhaps the hip-cloth serves a similar purpose in this context: Some variants of the ball game did use the hips and thighs for hitting the ball, and a waist protector known as a Yoke is common in art of Maya ball players, though Maya Yokes were very different looking and were bigger, thicker, and more complex pieces of equipment.
Accuracy of the Jaguar Warrior art
The Jaguar Warrior, is, aside from the Quetzallalpiloni, almost entirely off. To begin with, the main garment/armor he should be wearing is a Tlahuiztli, this is a "onsie" suit which covered the whole body, from the neck or shoulders down to ankles, and was made of thick cloth, and then a mosiac of thousands of feathers, the different colors arranged to make different patterns, in this case jaguar spots. The colors need not be yellow and such as an actual jaguar, as we have examples of Jaguar patterned tlahuitzli in red, blue and white and potentially other colors. Some sources do suggest that commoners who entered the Jaguar order via merit would have had suits made from actual Jaguar pelts instead, but this isn't consistently stated. The helmet (Cuacalalatli) was made of hardwood, and may have also had feather mosiac coverings and impeded precious stone and metal bits. (Something I think is really neat and would be awesome if it was borrowed for the Humankind art is how the Blue Jaguar tlahuiztli art by Angus Mcbride I linked earlier uses the red and white iconographic symbol for the Jaguars's eye that represent eyes or stars in the Mixteca-Puebla style common in Central-Mesoamerican art),
Technically the Jaguars, and any other soldier with a Tlahuiztli would also have Ichcahuipilli, which is a padded vest or tunic (like Eurasian Gambeson armor) worn under the Tlahuitzli (or alone by mid-ranking soldiers who didn't have Tlahuiztli or the even more prestigious Ehuatl to wear over it) but I don't think it's that important to have the padding be visible bulging up from under the Tlahuitzli or anything; and just felt it was worth noting even it not necessarily relevant to the art. Likewise, while i'd like to note that the Jaguar and Eagle orders were actually the LEAST prestigious of the 4 Mexica knightly orders: The Cuachicqueh or Shorn Ones, seen here in yellow with the mowhawks was the most elite (there were other high ranking titles and positions outside of those 4 orders, some even of higher status, like the Tlacochcalcatl.) and would make a better Emblematic Unit, again, as I said with the emblmatic quarter, I realize that's not changing at this stage of development, and it's not that big a deal.
Aside from the colors and the proportions being a bit wacky and some other fanciful bits, the helmet in the current art is okay, it's within acceptable limits to spice it up for the sake of it being a game, I guess. I'd suggest that the shield pattern be altered to something that was actually used, though: We have dozens of examples of actual shield patterns, which I have linked both Mexica and other Nahua examples of here and here from Armies of the Aztec and Inca Empires, Other Native Peoples of The Americas, and the Conquistadores (which isn't actually that good a source but as a quick reference of shield and banner types it's useful), there's really no need to invent a fake one as the current art does. Shields, or at least the fancier ones used by Jaguars and other high-status soldiers, had either a thick woven reed or hardwood backing and then a padded/thick cloth layer over it, and then feather mosiac to make the pattern, previous stone/gold bits, etc. Shields often had a feather fringe around the edges, and the bottom edge often had leather strips/flaps or feather tassels extending from the bottom.
I'll also link THIS compilation of (mostly) back-mounted banners/standards. I don't think he'd NEED one for the art, but it wouldn't be unusual for a soldier of status like a Jaguar to have one, these were given to higher ranking soldiers or officers/captains of divisions for coordination, like the flags mounted to Japanese Smurai or the crests used by the Romans. Macuahuitl don't usually have engraved patters on them, but that's just me nitpicking, it's fine. Likewise, just as a bonus, you may also want to have some Atlatl darts/arrows held behind the shield, as that's where soldiers stored them, and it's very possible a Jaguar, even if he had a Macuahutil, would also have an atlatl... again, though, this and the Macuahuitl pattern thing aren't big deals.
For people interested in more or if the developers want more art references, I highly suggest seeking out the following, some of whose art I used for the above links. I know some of these people were brought up on Twitter and some were trying to be humble and noted their art wasn't perfect, but their use of art, architectural, and fashion motifs and designs is much better then the current Aztec Culture art and would be good references regardless of minor errors or stylistic concessions they make.
- Paintings of Aztec Cityscapes and street scenes by Scott and Stuart Gentling
- Art of recreations of Mesoamerican fashion (both clothing, hairstyles, etc, including Aztec) by Kamazotz/Zotzcomic
- Art of clothing and building interiors by Rafael Mena (also here ) (be careful you don't mix up his Aztec vs Maya vs Totonac vs Mixtec stuff, it's not clearly labelled at times, read descriptions!)
- Art of clothing and street scenes by OHS688 (note that his work is often anthro/furry, but the archtecture and clothing is on point regardless)
- Paintings of Aztec soldiers and other historical soldiers by Angus Mcbride (mostly from Osprey Publishing books, note that while Angus's art is generally great, the information in the books's in terms of text or even descriptions of his art can be off)
- Art of Aztec street scenes and building interiors and clothing/historical figures by Nosuku-K (see also here, they also have a blog and some other sites) (their art is in a manga/anime "chibi" style, but again, the actual designs are generally accurate, just make sure you don't get their stuff for other cultures such as Mesopotamia mixed up with their Mesoamerican work)
- The Free, online Aztec Empire Webcomic, which is easily the best telling of the Cortes expediton and the fall of the Aztec, and is meticlously well researched for both narrative and visuals. It relies a lot on using Teotihuacano mural/fresco patterns for Aztec structures, worth noting, but IMO that's an acceptable crutch to lean on, especially when limited to floral and geometric motifs (The Aztec took a lot of influence from Teotihuacano art)
Additionally, for more information about Mesoamerican history, see my 3 comments here:
- In the first comment, I notes how Mesoamerican and Andean socities way more complex then people realize, in some ways matching or exceeding the accomplishments of civilizations from the Iron age and Classical Anitquity, be it in city sizes, goverment and political complexity, the arts and intellecualism, etc
- The second comment explains how there's also more records and sources of information than many people are aware of for Mesoamerican cultures, with certain civilizations having hundreds of documents and records on them; as well as the comment containing a variety of resources and suggested lists for further reading, information, and visual references; and
- The third comment contains a summary of Mesoamerican history from 1400BC, with the region's first complex site; to 1519 and the arrival of the spanish, as to stress to people just how many different civilizations and states existed and how much history actually occurred in that region, beyond just the Aztec and Maya
Lag issues with Artist 16 Pro
I've been using an Artist 16 Pro tablet with Windows 7 for about a year and a half, and in the last few months, it's started to lag (any pen strokes I make are noticeably delayed to some degree), and when the lag gets serious, I have to wait about 10 minutes or so before it goes away. The lag tends to be the worst in Adobe Flash CS3 and Photoshop CS6, but it's present in any other programs I use when the lag sets in as well. I've also noticed that my laptop's fan gets noticeably louder whenever the more extreme lag occurs.
Uninstalling and installing the tablet driver
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Using FireAlpaca instead of Photoshop (some lagging still occurs)
So far, nothing has worked.
Any advice on solving this issue would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!